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		<title>Even The DMOZ Isn&#8217;t Immune To The Directory Smackdown</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google doesn&#8217;t like paid links, they&#8217;re the thorn in the side of returning the most relevant search results. For the last several years web directories have been an overused method of not only getting new sites indexed but also ranked. One of the first steps many seo&#8217;s make for promoting a new website is paying [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img align="left" src="http://www.joehayes.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/dmoz.jpg" alt="DMOZ" title="DMOZ" /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/" title="Google">Google</a> doesn&#8217;t like paid links, they&#8217;re the thorn in the side of returning the most relevant search results. For the last several years web directories have been an overused method of not only getting new sites indexed but also ranked. One of the first steps many seo&#8217;s make for promoting a new website is paying for reviews (*cough* buying links) in popular directories. Well, Google has had enough.</p>
<p>Recently, some of the more powerful <a href="http://www.joehayes.org/portfolio/web-directories" title="Web Directories">web directories</a> (AvivaDirectory.com, AliveDirectory.com, Linkature.com, DirectoryDump.com, etc.) have had their homepage penalized in the search results for popular terms such as &#8220;Web Directory&#8221; and even their own domain names. Today, I noticed the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dmoz.org/" title="DMOZ">DMOZ</a> has been <a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;rls=GWYA%2CGWYA%3A2006-13%2CGWYA%3Aen&amp;q=dmoz&amp;btnG=Search" title="Google DMOZ Search">delisted</a> as well.</p>
<p>This likely wasn&#8217;t intentional, Google doesn&#8217;t like to make manual edits to their index &#8211; rather instead modify their algorithm to automagically filter out the results they want removed. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ve been tweaking their algo specifically for this purpose (filtering paid links) and has likely been the cause of the delayed PageRank toolbar export many webmasters feel is a few months overdue.</p>
<p>So what exactly is Google looking for when determining a site has been involved in linking schemes or buying links? When it comes to directories, most likely by looking for shared links among a bunch of similar directories. It&#8217;s fairly commong for web directories to rely on other web directories as their main source of IBL&#8217;s (in bound links). The more powerful directories are listed in pretty much every web directory out there, even the spammy ones. It&#8217;s also common for new web directories to seed their categories with authority sites, and it doesn&#8217;t get much more &#8216;authority&#8217; in the directory niche than the DMOZ.</p>
<p>So, the DMOZ has been lumped together with all the other paid web directories because it&#8217;s being listed in a similar manner. Whatever happened to &#8220;There is <a target="_blank" href="http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=34449" title="Google's Response To A Competitor Hurting Your Sites Rankings">ALMOST</a> nothing a competitor can do to hurt your rankings?&#8221; Well, this must be the <em>almost</em>. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be fixed soon, though let this be a reminder that Google is <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/text-links-and-pagerank/" title="Reporting Paid Links">on the hunt</a> for paid links.</p>
<p>***edit 9-26***</p>
<p>Seems like this is all a <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/my-favorite-pedometer-omron-hj-720itc/#comment-113434" title="DMOZ 301 To Itself">misunderstanding</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hey all, I dug into this a little bit with the help of a couple crawl folks. It looks like when Googlebot tried to fetch <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dmoz.org/,"><font color="#e58712">http://www.dmoz.org/,</font></a> we got a 301 redirect back to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dmoz.org/"><font color="#e58712">http://www.dmoz.org/</font></a> . It looks like that self-loop has been going on for several days. We were last able to fetch the root page successfully on Sept. 10th, but from that point on DMOZ was returning these 301-to-itself pages, and after a few days Googlebot gave up on trying to fetch the url.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, there you have it. Seems like a reasonable explaination although I don&#8217;t know how someone could make a mistake like that &#8211; especially on the level of something like the DMOZ. Oh well.</p>
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		<title>Netscape&#8217;s Place In Social Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those not familiar with Netscape, the company garnered it&#8217;s popularity back in the mid 90&#8217;s with it&#8217;s web browser (Netscape Navigator), at the time the most commonly used version for web surfing. Navigator lost much of it&#8217;s market share after the first browser war with Microsoft, and Netscape was eventually purchased by AOL and have devoted themselves [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img align="left" src="http://www.joehayes.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/propeller.jpg" alt="Netscape’s Propeller Logo" title="Netscape’s Propeller Logo" />For those not familiar with <a href="http://www.netscape.com/" title="Netscape">Netscape</a>, the company garnered it&#8217;s popularity back in the mid 90&#8217;s with it&#8217;s web browser (Netscape Navigator), at the time the most commonly used version for web surfing. Navigator lost much of it&#8217;s market share after the first browser war with Microsoft, and Netscape was eventually purchased by <a href="http://www.aol.com/" title="America Online">AOL</a> and have devoted themselves to improving the browser.</p>
<p>Fast foward to recent times, where in an effort to grab ahold of the open source, &#8220;<em>web 2.0</em>&#8221; crowd the Netscape crew decided to delve into the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking" title="Social Networking at Wikipedia">Social Networking</a> scene with a <a href="http://www.digg.com/" title="Digg">Digg</a> type clone. While many Netscape users were familair and happy with their current news portal (pretty much a rip of the AOL homepage), eventually it caught on and appeared to be growing in popularity as of late &#8211; showing a slight increase in traffic <a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=netscape.com" title="Netscape's Alexa Traffic Rankings">according to Alexa</a>, the first time since late 2004 when it went on what seemed to be a never-ending plunge in traffic rankings.</p>
<p>So why am I writing this? We&#8217;ll, the social networking news site is going bye-bye, in their <a href="http://blog.netscape.com/2007/09/06/upcoming-netscape-changes/" title="Netscape Social Portal Changes">own words</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>We received some feedback that people really do associate the Netscape brand with providing mainstream news that is editorially controlled. In fact, we specifically heard that our users do have a desire for a social news experience, but simply didn&#8217;t expect to find it on Netscape.com.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which makes perfect sense. Netscape&#8217;s gain in popularity by using their branding to grow a social media site is actually hurting their browser&#8217;s branding (which is what made them popular to begin with). So what happens to their growing userbase? Welcome to <a href="http://www.propeller.com/" title="Propeller - Netscape's New Social Media Site">Propeller</a>. Don&#8217;t bother following the link for a few weeks from this post, as the site&#8217;s not likely up (as of today).</p>
<p>Good move or bad? Time will tell, obviously there&#8217;s a desire to have another social networking site like Digg, though aimed at all markets. <a href="http://www.shoutwire.com/" title="Social Networking Failure">Shoutwire</a> was a failure &#8211; likely due to the <a href="http://www.v7n.com/forums/forum-lobby/24657-shoutwire-very-unprofessional.html" title="Shoutwire Unprofessional">childish moderating</a>, over monetization including <a href="http://forums.shoutwire.com/showthread.php?t=3975" title="Shoutwire Spyware">annoying pop-ups</a>,  and <a href="http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=111799" title="Shoutwire Pornography">pornography advertisements</a> (among other things). Other social media sites just don&#8217;t have what it takes (although many are still insanely popular &#8211; this niche is screaming for a leader), like <a href="http://reddit.com/" title="Reddit">Reddit</a> &#8211; great site but&#8217;s stuck in 1985, <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/" title="StumbleUpon">SumbleUpon</a> &#8211; another great concept but lacking in community, and a host of others but mostly geared towards the technology market (remember <a href="http://slashdot.org/" title="Slashdot - News for Nerds">Slashdot</a>? Well, it&#8217;s still alive).</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that Netscape does well with the launch of Propeller. They&#8217;ll likely port the large userbase over from Netscape and (hopefully) most of the community will follow it over there. They&#8217;ve only got one shot. I&#8217;d like to see at least a portion of the new Netscape news portal dedicated to showing the latest headlines from Propeller, that&#8217;s an important way to maintain value for those users contributing and alsohelping to  develope an &#8221;authority&#8221; for the new site. As a webmaster myself, I&#8217;ve been using Netscape for a while to find new interesting content to talk about and recenty became very active in their community. <a href="http://www.netscape.com/member/mdvaldosta/" title="Netscape for Mdvaldosta">See my profile</a>.</p>
<p>Only time will tell if Netscape is successful, if they&#8217;re not I hope another site steps up. The web does, in fact, need a great social media site that caters to the average internet user.</p>
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